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Yes the roller requires stripping from the housing, so that you can get to the axle, there will be 2 main reasons for the roller not to spin, the first may well be to do with corrosion for not being used for years. Put the rollers vertical in a vice, then get diesel in a spray can and soak all around the axle and leave, if it still does not move you can always add a bit of heat.
The second problem could be that the roller has slipped on one of its journals, in this case caution must be observed as any use of ‘whitworth hammers’ could be a costly mistake. Again use diesel to free the roller parts, check whether the slide pin has moved position on the axle, if it has, then a new pin needs to be made. This is not uncommon on warn machines

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Thanks Alan – much appreciated.

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Hi JAmie

I have a self propelled Stoic Landmaster that belonged to my father in law that you can have for spares if you are interested. It needs a new rotor shaft bearing i think otherwise it ran. It is in Guildford if you are interested.

Richard

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Hi Charlie thanks for your reply that’s really helpful. Reading through it definitely looks like the timing is out so I will pop the magneto off and have a go at resetting it. There is a click which seems to occur at the time the points open and there is also a tdc marking on the flywheel so fingers crossed it will start.
Thanks for your help and advice
Best wishes William.

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hi, my arthritis is causing me to mis type, the number is 0224-01.
i dont know how to send photos nave to get my prtnrt to do it on friday as we are away till then

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Unable to link type 9224-02 with model 131232, please check.

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OK , so January 1982. Any chance of an image or two ?

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Hi it’s Will I have just had a look and these are the numbers I can see. It’s a wico mag looks like 676B it could be a 5 not a 6 at the start but I can’t see it well enough to be certain. The engine is a Petter A1 3hp @ 1500rpm serial number 1522000. I had a look at the points opening times and it appears the points are opening with the piston a bottom mot top dead centre. If my understanding is correct they should be open just before tdc. So perhaps the mag has been off and re fitted half a turn out.
Thanks for your help and advice
Best wishes William

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Hi Charlie thanks for your reply I will get those details later today.
Best wishes William.

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the rest of the numbers are 82012707

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You’ve given the model and type numbers – fine, but pls add the final code number which will date the engine. Trouble is that there are so many variations which can be difficult to follow in the manuals. The code number may help.
Also, if you are able to post an image showing the carburettor and fuel tank assembly it may help with identification. What machine is it powering?

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Going back to your first post and your search for Stoic parts, and in particular a rear wheel, there is a possible pitfall. There were three models of Stoic, 3.5hp push, 5hp push and what you have 4hp self-propelled ( power driven). So, if you are looking for a donor machine for a rear wheel , it needs to be a Self-propelled one so as to get the correct rear wheel which will incorporate two sprag bearings to transmit the drive.

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It should drive on both rear wheels. With the chain running in line the sprocket should drive the solid axle running across the back of the machine and driving both wheels via sprag bearings pressed into their hubs. The sprag bearings grip the axle to propel the machine forward but allow it to be pulled back in use. If the cross axle is turning but the left hand wheel isn’t , either the sprag bearings ( two in each wheel) are shot or have been incorrectly fitted in the wheel . The bearings are an off the shelf item – not a specific Stoic part.

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Briggs flywheel keys. From the 1983 Service Update Seminar. In standard form the Stoic had a carrier disc with three rigidly bolted blades.The carrier disc was fitted to the engine crank via a hub with two protective “Ferrodo” friction discs and clamped with a bellville washer.
I believe that some commercial users replaced the disc with a bar blade that may have been borrowed from the Hayter parts bin.

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Yes the Stoic, I can remember from my apprentice days, made a good job on normal lengths of grass, but never try using one on thick grass in whip areas, or it will spend more time in the workshop than on the grass! To stop the engine having serious damage, there was a small aluminium slide pin that would shear on the flywheel, which would have to be swapped, a right pain, I can tell you, We even had a time for it, in our bonus books on the Council (somebody mention bonus!)

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