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Is this an atco mower if sore what year and model

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Would that be with a MAG engine ?

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For what it’s worth, my Barford Scythe has BARFORD GRANTHAM cast into the wheels. I didn’t know it was a ‘Councillor’ until I joined this site a few years ago.
Is it possible that when Barfords produced a scythe attachment for the Atom they needed to differentiate it from the larger Power Scythe which they then named the Councillor as local councils were important customers for grass verge cutting machines.
Do you have any dates on the Barford Scythe literature Charlie?

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my copy arrived yesterday well done Alan and also our members over the border

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Hi all, anybody any idea of the manufacture year of this outstanding vintage Hayter?

No disrespect but it’s neither outstanding or vintage. It’s a bottom of the range 16” Harrier with the cheap engine option , correctly identified by Hillsider. Could even be the down specced version sold through the Sheds or mail order outfits.

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Thanks Charlie I didn’t realise that was in there that’s perfect cheers

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a guy called trusty220 posted a pick of the manual on here but i cant get hold of him

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hi charlie thanks for replying but its the wrong manual my machine has a handlethat sticks out of the enginge / frame and u can remove engine and put it onto a mower base thats the manual i need but cant find

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Thank’s Charlie, are spares available for it, also is it same brockhouse that made corgi paratroopers small m/cycle in ww2.

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I remember the three terminal batteries but only on Atco machines. Not saying that they were never used on Webbs but we only saw them on Atcos. Some Webb machines had an on- board charger that resembled a car ignition coil of the day.

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is your throttle cable free ? mine does that and I have to free off the cable if not used for a while

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This may be of use
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrj5tm2p2l7l1r9/Kohler%20old%20governor%20setting0001.pdf?dl=0

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Hopefully the other forum contributor will supply an image of his machine – a picture saves a thousand words etc.
The big spring is correct at the Governor arm end and at the cable end – I think.
The rod will be correct on the vertical face of the Governor arm. On the throttle plate are both the holes the same size, or is one showing a worn or more polished bore? My thoughts are that the correct hole is the one that’s not got the small spring in it at present.
If you are going to make a new link rod it’s a matter of taking the centre to centre measurement with both the variable elements in the same state ie with the Governor arm in the fully shut position and the throttle closed ( undo the idle stop screw until the throttle butterfly is fully closed) or with the governor arm wide open and the butterfly the same. For the sake of a fiver I’d get the correct rod as it will be the right length and save the hassle of forming the cracked end or ends with the first right right angle bends at exactly the right centres.

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Attached is an annotated picture of what I have interpreted from your description/picture. Would you agree on this?

A few questions beyond this….

The large spring goes into the piece that is also connected to the control cable. There are 2 possible connection points here for the spring. One where I have the spring currently and then another one closer to the carb. Have I got this in the correct hole or should I move that end of the spring to the other hole? I have got a new large spring by the way, but just used the old one for reference until I knew the correct orientation. I didn’t want to overstretch the spring until I knew where it should sit.

When I apply the rod and smaller spring, I think your images suggest the throttle spindle should be at its stop (with the control cable set at the “run” position). Where should the relative position of the rigid arm be? Set towards the carb or set away from it? This will of course define the length of the rigid rod that I have to make up. I dont want to make it too long.

Onwards from that, I guess it should run then and any other setup should be done by the carb jet screw. This may have been adjusted in this process so is there a good start point for the position of this? Screwed all the way in or 1 or 2 turns out?

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Oh wow. That is amazing! Thank you so much for the assistance here. That is making sense.

I have struggled to find the rigid rod, but have ordered a set from a different machine (Honda motor). They are longer, so I should be able to trim and reform them to the correct length. I really want to try and get it done this weekend so this should work, even for a temporary solution.

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