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August 1, 2023 at 11:09 am #41031
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterjust thought , how do i know my engine was built after 1981
August 1, 2023 at 9:55 am #41030
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterhi i have already got the briggs manual and it is no help what so ever as to the relationship between the govenor and the trottle cable but you 56 pic looks like it could be the answer, it shows the spring connecting the throttle cable and the governor arm. will have another go and set it up as it shows on 56 and let you know
cheers richard
July 31, 2023 at 11:08 pm #41029
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterI should add that in fig 56 of my last post, there is a rod with a letter A and a rotation symbol . That is for a “ universal” engine with no remote throttle. If yours has a cable throttle control, that rod will not be present.
July 31, 2023 at 9:50 pm #41026
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterSounds like your Briggs man was less than experienced or just not interested !
The main issue is that there were several variations in the set up for the 13 series 5 Hp throttle / governor linkage. The main difference being between those with the throttle cable clamped to the carb on top of the tank and that clamped to the tank support bracket, low down by the engine base .
Worth investing in the BS manual 270962. Single cylinder L head manual – post 1981July 31, 2023 at 6:54 pm #41025
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterok, will get some more tomorrow
cheers richard
July 31, 2023 at 5:24 pm #41023
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterhi charlie
the number is 132232-0224-01 82012707cheers richard
July 31, 2023 at 11:49 am #41020
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterhi andy
below are the photos, one shows the fuel tank with the throttle cable connected to a bracket which moves as the throttle is opened with a return spring to help it go back to idle.
the second one is difficult to understand if you are not familiar with this piece of kit, it is not a good photo as it is so hard to show but what it shows is that the governor arm has a thin rod attached to it which the way i have it set up, is the only connection between the carburettor and the rest of the machine. as i said it runs great, the governor works , it just i have nio method to open the throttle with the control lever.
please get back to me if you need any more infocheers richard
July 30, 2023 at 5:51 pm #41015
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterhi andy,thanks for coming back so soon, it is not easy to photograph as the linkage is between the integral fuel tank and the engine, i will have a go tomorroe, cheers
richard
July 28, 2023 at 12:17 am #41010
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterA nice example, I would say late 1930’s, these were sold by The Army and Navy Stores from their catalogues via their Victoria branch London
July 25, 2023 at 9:29 pm #40998
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterHi Trusty thanks for the quick reply. That makes sense now I imagine that it wouldn’t take much to make the problem worse such as a collision with a tree or edging kerb. I did consider perhaps cutting through the triangular plate at the front where it is welded to the unit and ‘re welding it to effectively bring the front of the head up again. The other thing I noticed is that the 2 front units do not line up properly with the main frame it looks like they have been bent back again probably by hitting a tree.
Thanks for your help and advice
Best wishes WilliamJuly 24, 2023 at 2:26 pm #40994
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterWow, thanks for the prompt and interesting facts which you have all provided. I’m helping a lady with some family tree photographs and she will be very pleased with all that information. I’m amazed that hdtrust knows so much about the photograph, perhaps I’ll try and contact him. I attach another one for interest, from the same area, Woolverstone Hall. Thanks again, Tony
July 23, 2023 at 10:49 pm #40991
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterA very interesting photo. Yes the mower in the back ground is a Leyland Steam Mower of 30 inch cut.
I know this photo well. The date of the photo is 1894 and it was taken at the first season at Woolerstone Cricket Club at their match against Colchester Garrison. In 1894 Woolerstone Hall was the seat of Charles Hugh Berners, High Steward of Harwich, Essex.
Charles Hugh Berners is the gentleman in the photo second from the left. His Son John A Berners is on the right in cricket flannels. In 1899 the England team played the Woolverstone team, at the Hall. In 1904 J.A. Berners played for Middlesex.
In 1937 Woolerstone Hall was sold. Was purchased by Lord Nuffield as an investment for Oxford University, in WW2 it was taken over and known as HMS Woolerstone, in the 1950’s it became a school and today its a large wedding venue!July 23, 2023 at 10:27 pm #40990
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterHi all hope everyone is well. I have been using the motor triple and it’s going great apart from a broken chain which was soon replaced. I do however had an issue with the cutting heights. The middle unit is set at about 3/4 inch and on the 3rd notch but to get the same on the front units I’m almost at the end of travel on the adjusters meaning if I want to go higher I can’t. It seems that the front units are possibly leaning down at the front but I cat see anything obviously bent or worn. I remember using a later hydraulic triple and if the mower unit pins were bent it would cause the same issue but the motor triple has an A frame so unless it was twisted it shouldn’t happen. I checked the a frame with a spirit level and it seemed fairly true. I wonder if anyone knows of a common problem with these units and if they can be straightened.
Thanks for your help and advice
Best wishes WilliamJuly 22, 2023 at 9:17 pm #40985
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterThank you
July 21, 2023 at 2:26 pm #40982
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterHmm I am interested in that also
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