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May 3, 2021 at 8:54 am #37126
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterHi All
Just come in from the cold! I was with Thomas and Mr Wallingfield last night as we can now meet in groups less than 6.
This rollers proper name is a Sorrell roller which comes from the Patent. I do not think its a Pattison as they all had large wood rollers with steel spikes screwed in. all tended to be much larger as well normally about 3 feet in width.
For my money it dates to the late 30’s and was made by a Company long gone in name called Smiths, but is still with us today in another guize.Smiths were bought out after the war(second) by Sisis who ran out of the same factory, in the last few years Sisis was struggling, so Ian Howard came to the rescue and now they are part of the Dennis group.
Yes Thomas can remember such barbaric machines from his apprenticeship days, the golden rule don’t work on steep gradients, dragging behind you, with open shoe laces!April 25, 2021 at 4:35 pm #37026
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterApril 2, 2021 at 12:12 pm #36902
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterAttached is an annotated picture of what I have interpreted from your description/picture. Would you agree on this?
A few questions beyond this….
The large spring goes into the piece that is also connected to the control cable. There are 2 possible connection points here for the spring. One where I have the spring currently and then another one closer to the carb. Have I got this in the correct hole or should I move that end of the spring to the other hole? I have got a new large spring by the way, but just used the old one for reference until I knew the correct orientation. I didn’t want to overstretch the spring until I knew where it should sit.
When I apply the rod and smaller spring, I think your images suggest the throttle spindle should be at its stop (with the control cable set at the “run” position). Where should the relative position of the rigid arm be? Set towards the carb or set away from it? This will of course define the length of the rigid rod that I have to make up. I dont want to make it too long.
Onwards from that, I guess it should run then and any other setup should be done by the carb jet screw. This may have been adjusted in this process so is there a good start point for the position of this? Screwed all the way in or 1 or 2 turns out?
April 2, 2021 at 11:51 am #36901
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterOh wow. That is amazing! Thank you so much for the assistance here. That is making sense.
I have struggled to find the rigid rod, but have ordered a set from a different machine (Honda motor). They are longer, so I should be able to trim and reform them to the correct length. I really want to try and get it done this weekend so this should work, even for a temporary solution.
April 2, 2021 at 11:45 am #36900
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterOk so the part number is…
100902 (Model) – 0349-01 (Type) – 76101407 (Code)
April 2, 2021 at 8:34 am #36891
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterI did seem to recall a rigid link at some point. This may explain its seemingly wild running.
Attached is a picture of the engine code. Hopefully clear enough.
I’ve found a few exploded diagrams which shows a metal link rod, but I’m just not sure where it would go or if the current spring arrangement is correct!
Would love to see a picture of a properly setup one as a reference.
April 2, 2021 at 8:29 am #36890
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterInitially it was a struggle to start, followed by the engine cutting out quite quickly. Last year it was occasionally tricky to start but then once it went it ran until it was put into STOP.
Having rebuilt the carb (cleaned, the new gaskets/diaphragm) and in its current configuration it now starts but seems to be revving really high. Sounds like it’s about to take off!
Guessing this is now a result of the missing/re-arranged components!
March 29, 2021 at 9:59 pm #36877
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterOk so after hours of deliberation and talks with a mechanic friend along with some other research I have realised that the small fibre jockey wheel that seat back into the large gearbox pulley wheel is in fact a reverse option!
So the engine is driving it the right way, but I was only selecting reverse with the left handlebar cable…
If I bypass the smaller red wheel with the fibre disc and go from the engine pulley to the main wheel, the belt will rotate the large gearbox wheel the correctway and hence get forward motion!!!
So my next question is…. I assume there must be a drive belt that goes direct to the large gearbox wheel and should the large red gearbox wheel have another pulley for the belt to sit in? or does it also seat in the groove the reverse fibre disc drives in??
Any more help greatly appreciated… I’m sooo close
March 28, 2021 at 8:16 pm #36873
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterDid the Wolseley Clearways ever have reverse?
March 28, 2021 at 7:50 pm #36872
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterYes no unused pulleys at all… in this case I think I’ve been sold a complete lemon! It looks to me from other pics I found on line that the original engine pull start rotated the engine the other way. From what I gather, whoever put the new engine on also went to the lengths of fitting another cutting blade with the sharp edge on the opposite side. I think it was only until they started it and ran it they realised the mistake they had made!
I have only now realised it myself and have been ripped off by someone who said it cuts really well and has kept him going for years :0( I absolutely hate anybody who will lie to those lengths to mke a quick buck…
Maybe i can mod it as I am so far down the line now with restoring it
March 28, 2021 at 4:43 pm #36869
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterI think the jockey pulley basically comes up and tightens the slack looking belt and forces it into drive
March 28, 2021 at 4:41 pm #36868
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterYes the blade definitely rotates the right way and can only rotate that way as it’s edged only on one side, which is to say you couldn’t turn it upside down either at it would bend up and hit the blade cover. So I am sure the engine is turning it the right way…
March 28, 2021 at 12:46 pm #36863
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterHere are pics
March 28, 2021 at 12:45 pm #36862
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterI thought I did above my previous post you just replied to?
March 28, 2021 at 11:33 am #36860
vhgmcbuddyKeymasterMaybe I have a fusion of three different beasts!!
maybe the gearbox and main lower body isn.t even Wolesely?
I have noticed underneath the cutting blade there is the distinctive yellow paint colours of the old Clearways….
The last owner sold it to me as obviously non runner, I soon noticed there were multiple weird things like coil fitted back to front and internal parts to carburettor missing.. Think someone had a go and maybe put something back to front within the gearbox? I see no option visually or mechanically how To have the gearbox drive wheel turn the other way without turning the engine upside down so it turns the other way! It must be internal in gearbox or am I missing something really obvious? maybe I’m lacing it up wrong as I’m fitting this with no clear diagrams relative to this model..
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