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Hello, there is a help with a engelsk manual / hand book over the honda F190. (F 80) (e mail address removed by admin for security reasons)

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That’s great Charlie, thanks ever so much!

Iain

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Hi Mick, I’m in the same position as you, though you’re making much faster progress! There’s a manual for a later model here: http://www.coalcanal.org/workparties/allenscythe/allenscythe.pdf, you’ll find it says SAE 30 for the gearbox.
Paragon Paints have enamel in the original colours.
The adjuster grub screws on mine were well rusted in but they all came undone with soaking in releasing oil and a but of gentle heat from a blowtorch.
Is the cutter bar on your machine flat? Mine curves up at the ends but I’m not convinced it should be dead flat. Also, I’d be interested to know how good a fit the cutter bar is meant to be within the slot formed by the finger castings and the main bar. The one on mine has a lot of play – the slot is 1″ but the cutter bar is only 7/8″. It doesn’t seem likely to have been designed like this. On the other hand, that’s a terrific amount of wear, all of which seems to have been on the cast parts (the new bars Villiers sell are 7/8″.
I’ve enjoyed reading your commentary – keep it up!

Iain

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Hi thank you for your response. That is great, could you send me the manual to hannes68@gmail.com ? Maybe the badly copy is enough for me. Thank you again for your help.

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I have shopmanual and partslist, but both still in paper form. Will scan then soon when I find time. I have a badly copied user_manual in digital form.
contact me by mail if you want a copy.

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Hey,

I know this topic is very old, but I search for the F80 manual. Could someone send me the manual? That would be great!!

Thank you.
Tobias

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Oh dear, too big a document, I’ll have to see if I can make it smaller.

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I found the attached wonderful leaflet from Allen. Amongst lots of other stuff it says that model numbers 1727 to 12000 denote a “Mk 2” machine,above 12000 are model T. Nothing specific about TS.

Cheers,

Iain

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Thanks Andy, still wondering about getting more info on it such as the timing setting and points gap, though I’m a long way from needing to do either!

I’ve seen copies of two manuals advertised. One for a T model and the other for a TS. I think the TS has the 25c engine, not sure about the T. Do you (or anyone else) know of a manual that revered to the 11c?

I’ve managed to source a couple of spare dogs for the blade so that one problem solved, once I manage to free up the adjusting screws, though I can drill out and re-tap if need be.

Cheers,

Iain

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That’s great Charlie, thanks

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Thanks for your replies. Here are some pictures. The cowling is alloy so I guess that confirms it as an 11c Andy. It’s nice to think it’s an early model but all the info I’ve seen has been for later models with the 25c engine. If anyone has seen any info on the 11c I’d be glad to know of it for example to confirm the timing setting.

It seems to be reasonably complete appart from the cover plate for the flywheel, which I’ll have to look out for. One of the dogs which puts pressure on the blade is broken and I guess I’ll need another one if I’m to get the adjustment of the blade right.

Thanks for the tip on plusgas Charlie, I’ll look out for some.

I’ve included s picture of the identification plate ted20 in the hope of getting it dated at some point.

Lots to do! Not making much progress currently as I put my back out getting the thing down from the back of the car! Blimey they’re heavy!

Thanks for the help.

Iain

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hi Charlie, no it’s a lot smaller than that one, i’ll dig it out this weekend and post some pics. thanks Ray

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from spending a bit more time looking at pictures of carbies and the manifolds, i am confused about you statement of the carby attachment / inlet bolts being vertical, all i can find are horizontal mounts.

https://amalcarb.co.uk/other-amal-carbs/type-396-397-398.html

can you please post a few pictures here of your actual machine so we see the physical setup?

there is at least one with parts not to be found in any Howard parts manual,
see pic from Howard Register.

cheers Rod.

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Apparently there are different distance between mounting holes / bolts centres,
of old to new carbies, but it does not stop carbies being swapped.
read all the fine print from the Service Bulletins as found here:

https://www.howard-rotavator-spares.com/manuals/

cheers Rod.

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the Service Facts book 1969 lists 3 different carbs on the inline twin engines, you have the ‘latest and greatest’ so i would not be in a hurry to find a different one… however if you happen to have one of the others close handy then it might be worth a try. cheers Rod.

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