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The Coleby Junior is now dismantled. The engine and clutch housing has been separated, the clutch housing and the gearbox has been separated and the gearbox has now been stripped down. The next couple of posts will detail what I have done so far with a few pictures to help the descriptions.

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Gents

Many thanks for your replies regarding well known (or well marketed) so called penetrating oil. I think it is worth me getting some Plus Gas first of all, especially for the magneto but certainly take on board the diesel idea.

I’m a little busy tonight but have started a “what I have done so far” write up. I need to take a few photos, hopefully someone will find this interesting.

Keith

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When it comes to dismantling I’m a great believer in Plus Gas but diesel and heating oil (kerosene) are both good, particularly if item can be left in a tank to soak for a few days. A few contributors to American sites recommend home brewed potions involving automatic transmission fluid (ATF) and acetone.
I’m no lover of the original WD40 other that for what it was originally marketed for -Water Dispersal. As a friend says “the best thing about WD40 is their marketing and publicity, never mind the product”!

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Thanks Andy, yes you are correct, the CJ series sounds about right. It’s worth me remembering you have the 25A spares since I would love to find an early Coleby and restore that at some point. However I need to walk before I can run.

Keith

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Both are fitted with the JAP 4/3 engine but both have the newer magneto. I’m not sure whether the one I have purchased in Kent has the correct Magneto for its age, but expect the one I’m using for the restoration project will be fine to get the engine going.

I do have the Wico 2A magneto but can’t get the screws off the coil cover at the moment. Totally rested and seized even with copious amounts of a well know penetrating oil.

Over the next week I hope to have quite a few photos of the gearbox in bits, the clutch and a few odds and ends.

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The Sachs 500 (and 600) is a 2 stroke diesel engine.Are you using the correct ignition starters ?.If compression is low make sure the piston rings are not stuck in there grooves and that the bore and piston etc is all in good condition.Check the fuel injection timing is correct too.

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Thanks so much wristpin,I have read the post on both versions of the Saturn very interesting,lovely restoration and finish.
Thanks for the file.
Graham

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Your Landmaster later became the Saturn which was available in both push and self-propelled forms. I’m fairly certain that a couple of years ago someone documented the restoration of one on this forum – but it could have been elsewhere!
I’ve got some Saturn literature and I will scan it and post it later.

Had it on file!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oo2ecd1aas8gf9e/Landmaster%2014%20inch0001%20-%20Copy.pdf?dl=0

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Hi all

I’m new to VHGMC and my interest has been started by my purchase of a Coleby Junior in Kent. This was owned by a member who has told me about this club and having read a bit about it, duely paid my subs.

So, why the interest in Coleby? My grandfather worked for Fred Coleby and after Mr Coleby decided to sell the company, my grandfather bought the company which continued trading until 1972. I have several photos of my Grandad with the Coleby with the JAP engine and I assume the Villiers engine. There is therefore a family connection. I also have a Coleby in bits in my garage at the moment which I am trying to restore and this looks promising.

During the restoration, I am using the very tools my Grandad used to make the machines in the first place. I have his old spanners, tap wrenches die holders, screw gauges and so forth.

If anyone has any information about the Coleby Junior at all, I would be very interested to hear from you.

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Are there any photos of the potatoe lifting?

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are you going to Newark in November? if so are taking some shop articles?

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Thanks for the posts giving more information. I have found an article from the Daily Telegraph of 1925 that mentions experiments with canal towing tractors the previous year, although it is believed these experiments came to nothing and certainly tractors were not in wide use on London canals until at least 1952. It might have been a David Brown tractor.

I’ve been provided with some more pictures by The Waterways Archive and this is possibly the best picture of the Garner petrol tractor that was the main one in use on the London canals in the 1950s. We still know relatively little about this model so I am still looking for more information or pointers to any sources such as archives, or even to a surviving tractor of this design!

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The Ransomes canal tractor which Neil shows was I believe sold by Ransomes into the London canal system/dockyards. It evolved over a number of machines which were trialled in a number of areas but reputedly only one was made with the wheel steering system. A number of records and photos are held at Reading .

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thanks for the tip!

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have a word with Jim Beacon (the shop keeper) he has a mine of information on Auto-Culto he used to have a register for Auto-culto products Dave

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