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I doubt that Ransomes dealers will have the parts you need but try Bartrums Mowers, I think they bought all of the Ransomes stock of Motor Triple parts when they had a clear out.

There you have it from a man who’s done it !
Bartrams are now part of the Ernest Doe empire . Two other maybes for MT parts are Martyn Channer, 01494 712145 who can be found on eBay and Facebook, and Upsons 01621 892907. Check those numbers as they are from an old “ black book” !

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Thank you for your reply wristpin and for the manual.

I’m going to have another go at it this evening. Additional persuasion is probably what is required, it probably hasn’t been off in 20 years, if ever.

Getting the plate off will be a victory in itself irrespective of what’s going on behind it.

Thanks again, I’ll update when I make progress.

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I’ve had poke around my collection of old manuals and the best I can come up with is the attached for a Mk2.
Thinking about your broken spring theory, it could also be a seized shoe pivot or even a detached lining. keep us posted.

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The last time I worked on an MT was about 40 years ago, but I think that you are on the right track. The drum may need a bit more persuasion.
However, there is someone on this forum, Trusty220, who may be able to impart practical knowledge.

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These would be made from a special alloy as they are the wearing part of any cylinder and if you get it wrong it reflects badly on the whole machine

The difference between the characteristics of various manufacturers’ blade materials is very apparent when regrinding cylinders, both in spark colour and sound. Two examples from domestic machines come to mind – Hayter Ambassador cylinders seemed to be hard and brittle and it was usual to find damage to the ends of the blades. On the other hand the material used in the Atco DeLuxe 14,17,and 20” machines of the 1960s to 70s was very soft and quite badly buckled blades could be hammered straight and reground with no ill effect. Again noticeable with bottom blades, some being quite soft and responding to a quick skim while others needing a well dressed wheel and and lots of coolant.
The bottom blades from Saxon Triples (now Baroness) used some rather special alloy and really needed a “green wheel”. In the day those blades were very expensive but outlasted those used by Ransomes several times over.
Re-blading cylinders may be a thing of the past but a while ago I bought a very cheap Ransomes Marquis for “Spares or repairs” as it had an “unblemished” grass box but interestingly it had a very good cutting cylinder in terms of lack of blade wear but the quality of the welding suggested a rather amateurish re-blading job.

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Hello Jeff I have sent you a private message can you contact me

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The old thing is slowly giving up its secrets. I presume that Allett have a record of the original buyer but is there any information of its life in service? Re the Ransomes identification letters on the spirals, is it dangerous to suggest that Allett may have used complete Ransomes cylinder ?

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Always a good idea when an engine has been standing and before you try to turn it over, to remove the plug and squirt in a good dose of lubricant, wait a while, then gently turn it a few degrees back and forth. If it moves feely, go for a gentle rotation, then refit the plug and proceed as normal. A good precaution against ring damage etc if a bit of rust has formed in the bore.
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I used one a few months ago that had not been started for at least 5yrs , tank was cleaned, oil changed, new plug and it run on E10 no problem, drain tank after finishing this year and run engine until carb is empty and you should have no problem.

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I knew that I had a few Gutbrod / Motor Standard parts books etc but had forgotten where they were – blame either age or heat!
Anyway if you post the model numbers that you have, I will see whether I can match them up.

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They were either re-badged or made under licence Gutbrods – hence the German connection.

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Hello
I have found what I think is the right belt at Marksman Industrial Ltd, see details below.

Listed under A90 13x2286Li

Standard V belt. 13mm wide,8mm thick, inside length 90 inches, or 2286mm, pitch length 2322mm, outside length 2336mm. Oil resistant & Anti-Static. Working temperature range -18c to +70c. Wrapped Belts are the first of the V-Belts to enter the power transmission scenario. The continued development of the product has enabled them to achieve power ratings considerably higher than originally expected. The compounds used to build up these belts are well chosen to match the stipulated power ratings, thus offering increased safety factor on critical drives.

The one listed for a 12/36 and NOT the 11 is one inch longer which may account for problems adjusting the belt. I am going to fit the new one and let you know if it works out, otherwise the search continues.

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if you look in the Cultivator (inside front cover) you will find Help lines contact the Gutbrod (Motorstandard is same as Gutbrod) he may be able to help you

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It really has been some time since I updated this story but I haven’t been slacking. The main piece of news is that I’ve had a minor disaster with the fibreglass lid; it had many dents and scratches which I was filling with stopper (a very fine filler used for small imperfections) but when I went to flat them back to blend them in with the rest it proved impossible without rupturing hundreds of microblisters. It looks like somebody in the past has repainted the lid with a high-build primer/filler; this was coloured orange. The green paint was applied over the top of the orange primer but because the surface preparation was not good enough at the time, the primer/filler has lifted in hundreds of blisters and lifted the green topcoat with it. What this meant in this case was that when I flatted it down it left lots of orange spots in the green paint- not a good look!

That’s why those who do a proper job on fire glass bodied cars , Charge what they do. Looks like the chaps who last repaired it or even those who made it skimped / omitted the gel coat. Normal finishing products for steel bodywork are not usually suitable for fibre glass.

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Hello
Thank you for your response. The belt is the transmission drive belt. Any help or assistance you can give will be gratefully received. Look forward to hearing from you.

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