1989 Hayter 21/osprey bearings needed

Home Forums Groundcare Machinery Grass Cutting Machinery 1989 Hayter 21/osprey bearings needed

Tagged: 

Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #43270
    smokeycockatiel
    Participant

    Hello

    I need two cuttershaft bearings for my 1989 Hayter 21 rough cut mower.

    They are listed as Part number Hayter 2384 but are long obsolete.

    They are of the ball bearing type.

    Does anyone know where i can get replacements from please.

    there was a bearing part number on the bearing but it has rubbed away.

    Part 4 in the diagram

    Thankyou in advance
    James

    Attachments:
    #43272
    davidbliss
    Participant

    I have run two Bolens mowers now 43 years, and rebuilt the decks a few times, I went to replace the bearings and found they are a odd size, one firm said couldn’t I get the housings turned out to take a standard bearing, well they are not that strong to start with, so I tried Hayley’s Norwich, they have other branches. they said we keep them specially for you old boys. However I could have machined down a standard bearing and then ground to the finished size. as have done several for replacement obsolete bearings for early cars. The Bolens bearing sizes are, bore 3/4” OD 1.780 width .608. photos of Bolens, 1905 Rover gearbox bearings being turned down to size.

    Attachments:
    #43277
    davidbliss
    Participant

    If you could post the exact sizes I could look in my archive of old bearings, as many old bits of equipment ran those small bearings.

    #43278
    sidevalve5
    Participant

    Another way of getting bearings that I have done many times is to get one from one of the large online suppliers. I have used Bearing Boys and Simply Bearings. If the bearing has a manufacturer and a reference number on it. You can cross reference it with the company’s lists. If not, measure the OD, ID and width and put that in the company search engine. You will need to determine if the bearing is metric or imperial first though. A 1989 machine may have either size as it was in the middle of a period when the sizes changed. The balance of probailities is that Hayter used a stock bearing that is still readily available. But would firstly take advantage of David’s kind offer, he has vast experience in these matters.

    #43281
    davidbliss
    Participant

    Bolens used stock bearings but to gain a few £s they had the ODs taken down so a standard one wouldn’t fit without the housings altered. Bearings are usually all good, think in the 80s there was some Russian ones and for some reason we had a shortage and had what was available, they were so soft if heavily loaded stationary after fitting just sounded terrible. So there are bearings and bearings and today am amazed how long some go with heat and horrendous speed. But for some applications you still need if possible the old solid brass cages as if anything goes belly up the strong cage keeps the balls or rollers all in there positions it is also noticeable the bass cage laps the balls or rollers to a better finish, where in certain conditions a steel cage will seize very quickly or nylon will brake. A 4.3 Alvis ran roughly 400 miles shedding teeth off the crown-wheel but done little damage, a nylon or light steel caged would have let go with the amount of metal chips going through. the replacement is a easy off the shelf twin ball type like some FWD cars use. I would not use one of those and said why, well they found a genuine old stock, and blow me it had the Alvis part number etched in, I said how many do you have and got 25, I payed £90 and knew some were asking £400 for the same bearing so always try firms that know what you are asking for and helpful so you don’t just get the this is what we have also firms that are spread about they may have inherited old stock and I always say why I want a particular type so its reliable like originals if possible.

Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.