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November 10, 2019 at 5:59 pm #32604wristpinParticipant
What can anyone tell me ?
Were BUX an independent manufacturer and, if so , what other machines were they used in; or was BUX just the name of an in-house made engine ?
Could ask a similar question re Ransomes and Drayton!November 11, 2019 at 8:48 am #32607charlieKeymasterInteresting question.
November 11, 2019 at 8:49 am #32608andyfrostParticipantAngus , I’m only guessing that they were an in house made engine , based purely on the fact that I have never seen them fitted to any other form of machinery , like many others they sourced in the ignition and carbs.
Nice little engines when running , but the Miller ignitions were troublesome.Andy
November 11, 2019 at 8:11 pm #32611wristpinParticipantI think, in- house too. My parents had a new Rotoscythe in 1952 and I was deemed old enough to use it. I well remember that turbine like sound – and also the burn on the wrist from the exhaust, acquired when reaching over the machine to the height adjuster knob rather than walking around the front.
November 12, 2019 at 8:00 am #32612charlieKeymasterAre there any patent numbers on the engine? The original Rotoscythe was made by Power Specialities of Maidenhead. Looking on the patents website might give a clue or answer.
November 12, 2019 at 9:24 pm #32643wristpinParticipantGood suggestion, but I didn’t mean to imply that I have one now but I’d been in conversation with a man from Leicester who has two and neither of us knew the answer to the BUX question. I did have one that I took as a trade in when I had the business but I was doing a bit of post retirement de- cluttering and sold it to a chap from Oxfordshire who apparently has a bit of a collection.
This may be of interest
https://www.outdoorking.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=63824December 9, 2019 at 9:52 pm #32803hdtrustParticipantWell,here goes,the first engine that Power Specialist used was villiers,A Bux is a villiers under license to Power Specialists, in the first couple of years,then part of the licensing fell away,so that the latter ones,had different parts attached.
A nowadays term for these engines could be classed as badge engineered
You mention Ransomes,They have a long history of badge engineering.
The first engine which was badged was the Simms way back in 1905,this became the Orwell (derived from the river that runs through Ipswich.)
I suspect the engine you are talking about is the Ransomes 4 stroke which appeared on the Mk 10 Motor Mower or on the MG Tractors.This engine was originally a Sturmy Archer,then a license was bought by Ransomes.
Ransomes also badge engineered binks carburettors.
To give another licensing exercise
Atco
Chas H Pugh made under license,Senspray carbs, and also Claudel Hobsen carbs
Hope this clears your head
Kind regards
Andrew hdtrustDecember 13, 2019 at 7:09 pm #32824andyfrostParticipantI’ve waited a few days to reply , I’m rather surprised that none have been forthcoming. The original question was regards to the Bux (Shay) 120cc twostroke engine. I feel it difficult to believe that it has in any way a connection with Villiers , it doesn’t share one common component found on any Villiers engine, likewise the actual design.
Andy.
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