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April 15, 2022 at 3:06 pm #38818
andyfrost
ParticipantI would have persevered with a different method of removal , you may well have upset the balance of the flywheel by your methods.
Andy.
April 15, 2022 at 5:28 pm #38819aquila787
ParticipantAndy
I knew that before I started. I might refill those holes and see can I balance it some way.
I doubt it would have come off any other way. The starting ring was beginning to break apart when I tried that.John
April 18, 2022 at 5:28 pm #38827aquila787
ParticipantApril 18, 2022 at 6:36 pm #38830john-e-w
ParticipantIs it a pin, or a broken piston ring?
John E-W
April 18, 2022 at 7:40 pm #38831aquila787
ParticipantIt’s a split pin for sure. Looks like there’s a flange on the bottom of the cylinder but I wouldn’t be sure. It stops the piston coming out the bottom. The pin doesn’t come out the cylinder either.
April 19, 2022 at 6:45 am #38832charlie
KeymasterWhen I have stripped one of these engines the piston comes out via the bottom of the cylinder and goes back in the same way. There is a chamfer on the bottom of the cylinder to aid getting the piston rings and piston in. I don’t recall seeing a split pin but will have to look at an engine I have in bits at present. It could be the pin that stops the piston rings turning.
Do you have a copy of the parts book? If not I can supply a scanned copy, very useful for identifying parts.
The crank pin is held in by a tapered pin pressed into the end of the crank pin. Splitting the crank is not a job for the amateur as it requires a press and suitable tooling to remove the pin. Reassembly is even harder as it is critical to get all the parts correctly aligned. An engineering company specialising in motorcycle 2 stroke engines may be able to carry out the work.April 19, 2022 at 10:54 am #38836aquila787
ParticipantThanks Charlie. I could use a copy of the parts book please. Might not have to take the crank apart…..hopefully…..Will try get the piston out the bottom today. A lot of this is learning for me.
Thanks again.John
April 21, 2022 at 7:43 pm #38856aquila787
ParticipantThanks for the books Charlie.
I attach pictures of the piston and cylinder which finally came apart just now. The cylinder looks OK but I won’t know for certain till later. The piston has a little damage. Rings were broken. And a break between the rings as well.
Anyway what do ye think…..is it repairable?
April 22, 2022 at 6:28 am #38861charlie
KeymasterThe break in the piston is probably where the broken ring came out. It would be worth cleaning the piston to see how bad the scoring is. You will need new piston rings, not sure if the break in the piston will cause ring failure again as ring will not be supported by groove in piston at that point.
April 22, 2022 at 1:11 pm #38865aquila787
ParticipantApril 22, 2022 at 2:41 pm #38868wristpin
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aquila787
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I bought a can of owatrol oil yesterday. Supposed to be good. I’ll try it and see.No one commented when the above was posted, but……
Owatrol is a paint additive or patina preservative, not a penetrating oil.
Plus Gas is probably the best proprietory penetrant – preferably in a can and not aerosol. Diesel of either colour or Kero is very good, particularly if the parts can be dropped into a bucket of it and left for a few days.
Our transatlantic cousins seem to favour a home brew of Automatic Transmission Fluid and Acetone.April 22, 2022 at 6:26 pm #38869aquila787
ParticipantApril 22, 2022 at 10:06 pm #38872wristpin
ParticipantApril 22, 2022 at 10:37 pm #38874aquila787
ParticipantApril 23, 2022 at 6:22 am #38876charlie
KeymasterTo remove gudgeon pin (wristpin) remove the clips part number 10297, see parts manual plate 2 for illustration.
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