MG5. Track outer frame removal.

[expeatfarmer]

Iain I have sent you a couple of messages regarding parts but not sure if you have received them Jonathan

[silverfoxfintry]

My rebuild is progressing nicely. The differential and half shafts are fitted along with the brake drums and bands.
Can anyone advise of the correct oil for the dif and the gearbox?

[ransomes256]

The gearbox oil is a straight SAE50 Engine oil

[silverfoxfintry]

Is the SAE50 oil used in the Differintial as well?
Can I use the Same oil as the engine sump?
If so it simplifies things.

[ransomes256]

Yes the engine sump and the differential use the same oil.
The side gearboxes, hubs and rollers all use Hypoid EP140
The air filter a light oil like the modern car engine oils 0w30 or similar.

[expeatfarmer]

I find that the engines run rich with SAe 30 with plug sooting problems SAE 20 seems to work but it may be my imagination.

[ransomes256]

Jonathan,
SAE 20 and even SAE 30 seem a bit thin to me. Surely this oil is for the Diesel engine with a roller bearing big end rather than a petrol engine with a plain bearing.
Neil

[silverfoxfintry]

Finally, after polishing and acid etching made out the serial number of my MG5.
I can make it 4 numbers, though due to a section of the plate having rusted through 1 may be missing.
I have the following– 7-156.
Also the number 2155 is on the differential gears.
Engine No MGE 6828.
Hope this is correct and helps with the register.

Silverfox.

[silverfoxfintry]

I have just had a look at the register.
My serial numbers don’t seem to be correct?
Any comments gladly received.

Silverfox.

[ransomes256]

Iain,
Not sure why you consider your serial number may not be correct.
If the number is 7156 the tractor would be circa 1951

However I do not understand the 2155 from the gears. If the gears are marked 2/55 it would relate to February 1955 which does not match the serial number as this would relate to MG6.

Neil

[silverfoxfintry]

I have found evidence of extensive repairs to the Differential and gearbox.
Perhaps the gears have been replaced in 1955?

[expeatfarmer]

Could well have been changed, I would tend to believe the data you have recovered from the id plate and date it at 1951. Just to clarify my last post on oil I should have added that I use sae 20 in the air filters to avoid rich mixture. I use sae 50 in the engine and gearbox and 140 for all the oil nipples and final drives.

[silverfoxfintry]

Time marches on!
Since my last post I have refurbished one set of drive and idle wheels.
Thank god I have a good lathe.
Machining 30 sets of spindles and rollers took a long time.
I used EN24 steel for the rollers and mild steel bright bar for the spindles.
Finished welding last night.
I still have to refurbish the second drive wheel and weld on new rims to the idle wheel.
I have been painting everything with Red Oxide primer as I went along. Now I am starting to think about top coat paint.
Can anyone advise on the paint codes. Both the Blue and the Red?
I have to get a move on now as I have work for my MG5 in the spring, hauling logs in a small wood.

[ransomes256]

Iain,
A bit late for you but due to current requests and demand I have just completed stock of 600 wheel rollers and pins which generates an awful amount of swarf and appreciate the effort involved.

There are no paint codes available but the blue is virtually the same as Ford Tractor Blue (not Empire blue) The red was Rood Red which is virtually the same as the old Massey Ferguson Red.

Regards and Happy New Year
Neil

[silverfoxfintry]

Hi Niel.

Now you tell me!
Just out of interest, what steel did you use?
I went for the EN24 as it is tough and quite wear resistant, though not cheap! £85.00 for 3 Meters.
Thanks for the info on the paint I will visit my local paint shop next week.

All the best for 2018.

Iain

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