Vintage Horticultural and Garden Machinery Club

Here are the photos of the sheared Villiers pump crank after a stone came through the suction hose and locked the impeller. Also the 2a grooved key and a cropped image of the bolt threads showing the original paint on them.

The clean cut on the crank vividly demonstrates what can happen when an engine suddenly stops stone (pun intended) dead and…[Read more]

H7 is a transition fit, where it’s not a sliding fit, but not a press fit either. The flywheel should fit over the shaft and come off again with very little effort. But have some resistance to rotational turning.

There was no felt seal around the edge of the stator plate.

Believe the engine cowl has never come off since it left the Alcon w…[Read more]

Remélje, hogy teljes visszatérítést kap a kézikönyvért. Ha bármiben tudok segíteni, csak kérdezz. Tagja vagyok néhány Facebook-csoportnak, a tagok gyakran kínálnak kézikönyvek pdf-változatait, hogy segítsenek egymásnak. Postázhatnék valamit, de a motorok ritkák ebben az országban, úgyhogy szerintem nem sok van a kézikönyvvel. Kipróbál…[Read more]

Sok sikert a javításhoz, és remélem sikerül újra rendesen működnie. Nincsenek brosúrám a Tecnamotor motorokról, ezek nagyon ritkák az Egyesült Királyságban. Ne is gondold, hogy láttam egyet. Köszönöm szíves prospektusajánlatát, de csak az általam birtokolt vagy dolgozni fogott motorokról van és kérek információt. Tartson naprakészen minket…[Read more]

Am thinking very much along the same lines. The pulley should be done up tight against the flywheel, the roll pin prevents that. There is a strong possibility that if it is pulled tight it will pull the crank slightly towards the flywheel end. Am going to grind in the valves, so the stator plate has to come off. Will also get the deposits in…[Read more]

If using Windows on a PC, the default program will have a slider in the bottom right hand corner of the monitor with a – on the left, a + on the right. Move the slider to the right to zoom in. Alternatively, with the mouse cursor over the image, roll the mouse wheel up, away from your hand.

The roll pin is actually 3off, 2 larger ones and a c…[Read more]

Dear David,

Had another look at the engine yesterday and indeed it does have a head gasket. When I took the head off on Saturday I only took a quick look at it, noting it had numbers stamped on the contact face. It was covered in thick green paint. The numbers were an imprint of those stamped on the cylinder and into the soft head gasket. A…[Read more]

Am afraid there is a huge variation in prices. It depends very much on the condition and what the vendor thinks it’s worth. That’s often a lot more than it would get in an auction where the starting price is low and the bidders raise it until sold. Suggest one in poor condition is worth twice scrap value, say £25 and 10X that for a good runner.

Andy,

I would agree that a 2A is a very simple engine to work on. Where we will diverge hugely is that because the flywheel was all but welded onto the crankshaft, it was a devil of a job to get it off. Your method would have failed in the first instance. Persisting in it would have damaged or broken associated parts.

Attached are more images…[Read more]

Jó látni, hogy mivel foglalkoztál, és várom a jövőbeli bejegyzéseket.

Hi Andy,

Please ignore the text in my last post. Am chatting to a chap in Australia who has done a 2A up and asked him about removing the flywheel too. I did the original text to him, them slightly edited it for you. Copied it to paste into the VHGMC forum box and for some reason (think because I had not saved the Word.doc before editing),…[Read more]

Hi Baz. Got the flywheel off yesterday, had a right game with it. Think Facebook only allow one photo in a reply to a post, so will send what I have in a succession of replies to illustrate the matters better. Believe the year of manufacture to be 1951 with the H (missing the bottom left leg) after 2A. Do not think the engine has done much…[Read more]

Many thanks Andy. Am going to have a go at taking the flywheel off at the weekend and will take a picture of the roll pin. It looks like there is a sleeve or spacer behind the pulley and the roll pin would lock it in place. The first numbers on the crankcase are 2AH, which I think means it’s a 2A manufactured in 1951. But the H is higher t…[Read more]

Agree that if the production of the paper copy of the magazine is the main driver for increasing the membership fees. Then the possibility of a two tier fee should be explored, with the higher amount being paid by those who still wish to get it through the letterbox. The lower sum for an online version that can be downloaded. A cost analysis…[Read more]

Did look at two stage as the optimum pressure required for the Hunter rotators was 40 psi. But had to factor in cost of the pump, cost of the extra fuel to obtain that pressure, the pressure exerted on the existing pipework and connections, would still have the slime problem blocking the filter. Can get second hand single stage petrol pumps for…[Read more]

My pump saga has been an interesting one. My original irrigation system was a bit of a hotchpotch of bits and pieces I had picked up over the years that included the Villiers/Alcon pump. In 2011 I purchased the Hunter MP2000 Rotators and found straight away the Villiers pump would not supply enough pressure. It always took 3+ minutes to pull…[Read more]

Hi David,

Fantastic video. The seal I took out of the Villiers/Alcon pump was all covered in crud and breaking up. Vulcan Seals asked if I could send it to them so a replacement could be identified and also they would have a record of it on their database. Just looked it up and it was in 2011 when I got the new seal. I cannot recall what the…[Read more]

Hi David,

Took a couple of pictures of the one I got at the auction. Also my old original Villiers pump to add context. The JAP pump has a nameplate on the cowling with the first number being 1943. Do not know if that is the date it was put together, or if it is a coincidence. Also do not know if Alcon purchased the engines unpainted, then…[Read more]

An update the Alcon 1½” pump. Went to an auction on Wednesday, there were two pumps there in one lot. One attached to a JAP 2a, the other to a 3 phase electric motor. The latter had an embossed ali label on it stating the pump had a head of 66’, so around 20m. This compares very poorly to even the cheapest Chinese modern equivalents if it is t…[Read more]