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In the gallery there is a 1960 advert and the little giant chainsaw is just off the image in the bottom right corner.

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I haven’t seen the machine in question in the tinwork so can only go by the information and photos posted.

At first glance I’d say it was homemade, or at least not of mass-production, but questionable past machines which turned out not to be homemade now make me look a bit harder!

I have found a photo and also traced it to some information on a German museum website. The photo show an ILO parade in 1950 at a Rosenfest (Rose Festival) where machines that used ILO engines were driven through the parade. The names of the manufacturers are on each machine and adorned with roses. The interesting bit is that the ILO float is being pulled by a four wheeled, possibly four wheel driven tractor with round fenders, I’m guessing this is powered by an ILO engine?

On the front of the tractor is a rose-surrounded sign saying ‘Willie Schlepper’, the schlepper translating as Tug. I cannot find a manufacturer of machines by the name of Willie, but perhaps it was the tugs nickname? Any ideas?

Questions is, are there more tugs of differing designs? And has this got anything to do with the mystery machine this forum post relates to?

I’d probably be looking to see if the other components on the machine are of German origin, and in particular those wheel hubs. I haven’t seen any similar on the internet yet.

The German Pinnerberg Museum Website has some more pictures of the parade:
https://pinnebergmuseum.de/geschichte-der-jlo-motorenwerke/

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Sean

I’ve looked through the VHGMC online stuff and had a search online and cannot find any documents apart from paid for ones. Being from Yorkshire myself I know what you mean about unnecessarily spending money, club chairman Trusty220 constantly reminds me about my frugality!

Good luck with the roller, there seems to be quite a few about so someone must have a manual somewhere.

Alan

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That’ll be a Pulvo cultivator as in the image galleries:

https://vhgmc.co.uk/photo-galleries/pulvo/

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Thanks. We are aware that some pointless spammer has sent a group-wide email from their account. Everything is ok.

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Looks like someone created an account and posted a group-wide message.

Technology does stop most spam registrations but sadly not all, there’s always someone out there who is hell bent on posting spam. The spammers account has now been dealt with and site checked.

Slightly concerned that Trusty220 was getting excited with the thought that he was the only one getting the email!

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I’m of the same opinion as others that whatever the paint used it will still take the same effort and time to apply it, it’s therefore worthwhile trying to get the correct paint or as near as possible for whatever project or seeing if a paint supplier has any details in their records like Farmer has, above.

If in doubt then the best piece of advice is always to have an un-faded piece of the original colour matched, this gives the guarantee that one can always say it was matched to the original machine if anyone challenges (or criticises) it.

Paint colours will always be a thorny issue as not many original specifications are known. Also, what one person deems correct may not suit another and likewise their ideal paint colour or code may be an expensive disappointment for another too.

If I ever compiled a list of ‘ideal’ colours on the website then I think it’d be under the heading “This is how I painted my machine, I like it, I think it’s correct, but no guarantees given if it’s replicated !”.

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Ok little brown book. One step at a time, are you sure it was a kidnapping (or perhaps booknapping) and not a random break for freedom from the club stand that you made?

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This might help in the archives:

https://www.tractorbox.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4333

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By all accounts the club stand was absolutely excellent and did really well. I’ve seen a few photos of the stand and indeed with gazebo, noticeboard and club flags made for a great stand with machines to look at, displays to read and reference books to peruse – and of course some knowledgeable members to talk to.

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Thanks for the info about the liveried MG sold online. I’ve had a look and kept a few images for future reference.

I did have a search a while back to see if there was any contemporary evidence of MGs with the RAF, but I found nothing.

There was a David Brown roadless on tracks but apparently it was found to cause too much damage to the airfield and was subsequently converted to tyres. I have a photo somewhere when I find it.

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I was busy doing nothing when I came across another electric jobber on an auction site – photo for research purposes.

This jobber has a couple of attachments with it.

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Just to confirm that there was indeed a commercially available electric jobber, but unfortunately I’ve not got any info!

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I’ve had a look through the archives, it may be of help as a few bits are on there.

Go to the VHGMC archives which are currently at:

https://www.tractorbox.co.uk/forum/search_form.asp?FID=0

Type in the search box Hayter Villiers

Make sure the ‘Find Posts’ dropdown box is set to ‘Any Date’ (it usually auto-set to ‘Last six Months’)

Then click ‘Start Search’

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Well spotted! It’s amazing what can be found on these auction sites.

The badges are £2.50 in the club shop.

https://vhgmc.co.uk/club-merchandise-2/

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