[alan]

Looking through the archives it might be the remains of a Stothert & Pitt powered barrow. The one in the image has a Robin engine although S&P used Villiers MK12 and MK15 engines on many machines.

https://vhgmc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Stothert-Pitt-Powered-Barrow-1.jpg

[alan]

Looks interesting! To potentially narrow it down a bit, do you have any idea of the original colour or any id on the equipment?

[alan]

Log into your account, then click your name at the top right corner of the screen next to your picture, this will open your account. Next, click ‘settings’ where you can change your email address, password etc under the ‘general’ heading.

[alan]

Welcome to the club. Hope to see some of your projects.

[alan]

Thanks. It’ll be good to have a little more info to fill gaps, when PM is soon sorted I’ll be in touch.

[alan]

I did find that information about Ariens just seemed not to appear after about 1990, thanks for confirming that sales did drop in the late 1980’s which would explain why I couldn’t find anything!

Interesting that you sold the tillers with snowblower attachment, first hand knowledge is always good. Thank you.

For research it’s always difficult to find enough information about any machine or manufacturer so it’s nice to fill in gaps from info from people who actually dealt with the machines in question. Reports and editorial from the time in newspapers, magazines and also brochures cannot always be relied upon, sometimes I leave out information on my articles quite often simply because there’s some doubt about whether the supplied newspaper/magazine information is actually correct – especially when there’s contradictory data and reports!

[alan]

Unfortunately the forum suffered spam emails being sent to users about two weeks ago, this meant that to stop spam messages being sent we had to suspend the service whilst we consider how to implement the solution. We have the solution it’s just inserting it without bolloxing up the forum.

If you need to spur a member into action then you can always using the @ symbol followed by a username in a post or update as this’ll send that user an email that they’ve been mentioned on the website. i.e. @alan

You can search for a members username using the search box at the top right of the screen.

[alan]

Sorted!

[alan]

Of course, glad to help.

The forum displays images as thumbnail attachments to a post. When the thumbnails are clicked by a user browsing that post then the image displays at it’s full size in the centre of the screen and then all images for that post can be scrolled through.

1: Write your post text but don’t click ‘Submit’ yet

2: Click on ‘Choose File’ on the left side just below the text you have composed

3: A window will open asking you to select an image from your computer

4: Navigate to your image on your computer, click on the image and then click ‘Open’ or whatever option is shown on your computer/phone/tablet

5: The filename of that image will now appear on the page to the right of the ‘Choose File’ button

5: If you want to add a second image then click ‘Add another file’ shown below that ‘Choose File Button’

6: Continue until images are added

7: Now click ‘Submit’ to send your text and photos to the forum.

Image Sizes: They are limited to 3072kb so using software such as shrinkpic to scale an image as it’s uploaded or the Windows snipping tool to save a smaller version of your photo beforehand is advisable. Image sizes are limited because otherwise the database would be overwhelmed by large data-heavy images that cameras and smartphones can effortlessly take nowadays, this also has the knock-on effect that someone viewing forum images would also have to download those images in order to see them which isn’t ideal on a ‘phone or slow internet connection.

I use Windows snipping tool for lots of things. The snipping tool is on most Windows computers as standard. Open an image on screen, then open the snipping tool, click new, and then with the mouse highlight the area of the image that’s required and click save – end result is an image that is not data hungry.

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Written evidence from research done by another VHGMC member suggests that the Dronwal brand existed from about 1944 with sprayers of the type and size you have still being made in 1977 – so quite a large period of time and many produced. Looking at prices, somewhere £20 to £30 seems to be the price online.

[alan]

In the gallery there is a 1960 advert and the little giant chainsaw is just off the image in the bottom right corner.

[alan]

I haven’t seen the machine in question in the tinwork so can only go by the information and photos posted.

At first glance I’d say it was homemade, or at least not of mass-production, but questionable past machines which turned out not to be homemade now make me look a bit harder!

I have found a photo and also traced it to some information on a German museum website. The photo show an ILO parade in 1950 at a Rosenfest (Rose Festival) where machines that used ILO engines were driven through the parade. The names of the manufacturers are on each machine and adorned with roses. The interesting bit is that the ILO float is being pulled by a four wheeled, possibly four wheel driven tractor with round fenders, I’m guessing this is powered by an ILO engine?

On the front of the tractor is a rose-surrounded sign saying ‘Willie Schlepper’, the schlepper translating as Tug. I cannot find a manufacturer of machines by the name of Willie, but perhaps it was the tugs nickname? Any ideas?

Questions is, are there more tugs of differing designs? And has this got anything to do with the mystery machine this forum post relates to?

I’d probably be looking to see if the other components on the machine are of German origin, and in particular those wheel hubs. I haven’t seen any similar on the internet yet.

The German Pinnerberg Museum Website has some more pictures of the parade:
https://pinnebergmuseum.de/geschichte-der-jlo-motorenwerke/

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Sean

I’ve looked through the VHGMC online stuff and had a search online and cannot find any documents apart from paid for ones. Being from Yorkshire myself I know what you mean about unnecessarily spending money, club chairman Trusty220 constantly reminds me about my frugality!

Good luck with the roller, there seems to be quite a few about so someone must have a manual somewhere.

Alan

[alan]

That’ll be a Pulvo cultivator as in the image galleries:

https://vhgmc.co.uk/photo-galleries/pulvo/

[alan]

Thanks. We are aware that some pointless spammer has sent a group-wide email from their account. Everything is ok.

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